20. New York Rangers: Getting Tim Erixon from Calgary was a steal for the price he was had at, as he's one of the top five defensive prospects in all of hockey. I had mixed feelings about their 2011 draft, although I was a fan of their day two picks. Chris Kreider is immensely talented, but as time continues to go by, the more and more I start to feel like his poor hockey sense will impede his pro potential significantly. 2011 top pick Dylan McIlrath showed some progression and at times looked quite impressive, but there's still a lot of work to do there and I'm not very optimistic about him becoming a significant piece.
...is this guy kidding me? He ranks the Rangers 20th based on his assessment of three prospects and one day of one draft? No mentions of Hagelin, Thomas, Yogan, Valentenko, Bourque or Pashnin. Oh and it must have completely skipped his mind that the Blueshirts have guys like Stepan, McD and Zucc already playing in the NHL.
...and the topper, this guy has the Islanders, yes the Islanders, ranked #2.
Back in the Spring, Hockey's Future had the Rangers at #7 in their Organizational Rankings.
Just getting home from talking to a couple guys i'm friendly with who play at Northeastern, and are twins who were drafted by the Sharks in 08' they speak very highly of Kreider and say he has the skills to be a force in the NHL. They are going to Sharks Prospect camp tomorrow.
I won't complain too much about the high ranking of the Isles; they do have a ton of young talent on that team, but given that I can't imagine they have a ton of guys with talent left in the minors.
I cover both Ranger and Islander prospects but it always is amusing to read what others say about the team's prospects. Most times I find that they close their eyes and toss a dart to see where it lands.
He says Kreider has poor "hockey sense" but do not cite any examples of the areas where Kreider is lacking. Was it his decision making or his positioning? Is his reaction time slow or does he just not play a smart brand of hockey? Yes if you measure Kreider by his stats it was not a good year but a generic labeling makes one question the author's judgment.
If Kreider has such poor hockey sense then (a) how come is one of the very few players to be members of both the Under-20 and Main USA Hockey teams for the last 2 straight years.
I am not perfect but when you ask me to break down a prospect I will tell you which areas need work and where his strengths/weaknesses are. Do not just say someone is bad show why they are.
Totally bogus breakdown of the Ranger prospects as you have zero mention of Christian Thomas. How can you talk about Ranger prospects and not say word 1 about a kid who was 54-45-99 for the regular season then tossed in a 9-10-19 in 10 playoff games?
Sorry for the rant but it is very frustrating to see people try to pass this kind of stuff off as solid reporting. It is not
Crazy, he is basing this entire idea on just the national league team and their top name prospects.
The Isles have done an excellent job in bringing in prospects and youth except they are all in the NHL already besides one talented player in the AHL and one guy who they drafted this year. There entire youth and prospects lie within the Islanders and not their farm team. They have years before that team becomes anything dangerious.
At least the Rangers have a ton of young upcoming players within their team and a lot more prospects who havnt made the step yet to the pros.
As you said, that entire list is insane. A list full of defenders and forwards who all can bring something to the table and no need to rush their progress.
AND I LOVED THEIR #1 pick this year. A guy with a tremendous amount of hockey sense. Okay maybe not that insane buttt a guy whose very smart on both sides of the puck, his only con on many of the scouting reports was that he had an issue finding the stats. He wasnt a stats guy, but his stats are increasing very much espcially when he played for the Gold Winning JR team. Now in NCAA, hell learn to be that well rounded player we need in 2-4 years
From where did this guy come? Perhaps PLUTO? The Isles got a sleeper in Grabner and claimed him off waivers.. was that just luck?
say what he will about the players mentioned, there is no no way in hell that the rangers are 20th out of 30 teams. it seems like this guy didnt do any homework on the team. disappointing but not surprising.
@KingBadaBing Wow that's pretty awesome. Are they the next coming of the Sedin twins?
@Carillion21 Agree. Way more upset about Rangers low ranking than Isles high ranking.
@TheProspectpark No need for apologies. Must be frustrating.
@KevinDeLury They're hoping they will be. It's interesting they were saying that at Draft day there are tons of back door deals. They were ranked 8 apart in the rankings and Drew (one of the brothers) was taken in the 3rd round but the GM cut a deal with a few teams, and made it known that his twin was untouchable and he was taken in the 7th round. They say it's done for good PR work. Also, they're both Rangers fans and they weren't too happy with their pick of JT Miller, being that they played against him. Not that he was a bad pick, but that we coulda done better.
@KevinDeLury It is frustrating because there is blanket labeling instead of showing the who, what, and why you came to these conclusions.
Everyone is more than entitled to their own opinion but if you are going to make a claim then back up that claim with specific examples.
I said Kreider needed to go back to Boston College for his junior year then showed why. Going 0-1-1 in 7 games against the NCAA's very best.
Not shooting the puck enough as Kreider's best performances come from games where he takes more than 4 shots a game.
He did not live up to the Gordie Clark rule:
"Dominate at the level you are at before advancing to the next level"
Kreider showed that when he took over a game he changed the entire dynamics of the game as he did against Northeastern in the Beanpot Final and then again 4 days later against the same Northeastern team.
Defensively, Kreider is very underrated as I would not at all be afraid of putting him out there to kill a penalty in the NHL tomorrow.
If you are going to charge people money for your information then give them some real value for it.