Yesterday Arthur Staple at Newsday reported that the Leafs would want at least a current NHLer, a prospect and possibly a first-round pick in return for Kaberle.
Kaberle, 3g, 33a (21a on the power play), is in the final year of his contract that pays him $4.25 million this year.
...so if I'm hearing this correctly, the Rangers, who are not Cup contenders, could theoretically send Del Zotto, Grachev and a first-round pick to the Maple Leafs for a rental? That makes sense (rolls eyes). It's officially the silly season folks aka two weeks till the trade deadline.
...Sather is the master at trades, so no way he does something as detrimental to the team's future as this. Right?
Burke is nuts if he thinks he's going to get that much for Kaberle in the last year of his contract. That being said, I'd like to have him on our power play. I'd trade Gilroy and a 3rd rounder for him, thats about it.
Burke won't get that price -- if it's even correct -- and Sather most definitely will not make that trade. I wouldn't be opposed to acquiring Kaberle at all, he's exactly what this team needs, but Burke has little strength in negotiations given Kaberle's unrestricted status. Something>nothing. Keep in mind too, if Sather acquired Kaberle it wouldn't be as a rental... he'd have every intention of locking him up.
Those guys are just preacing and making up huge offers to keep the folks in Toronto happy. Toronto is looking to make a fire sale, the rangers are commited to youth and have over 10MM in cap space. Burke has almost power here. I say the rangers offer a 3rd rounder, conditional 2nd if they make the playoffs. That said with all this space, im am comfident the rangers will 1 or 2 rentals for next to nothing
Sather would never make this trade. No chance. Look at his trade history in the past few years. This doesn't look anything like a Sather trade.
I say Redden and our extra 2nd round for Kaberle and two of Toronto's prospects. Crazy? Yes. Likely? No; but it looks alot more like Sather's recent trades than what is proposed above.
That, or he'll wait until July and sign him for 6 years at $8 Mil per.
@cb1 Yeah. I'd take that. I'd take it faster if the 3rd rounder was conditional on Kab signing an extension.
@cb1 I'd have no problem with that deal. Especially b/c I don't see them re-signing Gilroy this off-season.
@KevinDeLury @_Jack Right. Whereas most predictions this year had NYR missing the playoffs again. Not saying that pre-season predictions are gold (or even that important), but looking back from 50 games in, they do provide some measure of whether a team is over-/under-performing.
I certainly wouldn't say the Rangers are under-performing, but I still say "cup contender" is a bit optimistic.
Right, we're in 2011 and I know where Philly is in the standings, thanks. Last year Philly, Montreal and NY were all battling for 8th place. It came down to the last game. All I'm saying is that if you make the playoffs you're a contender. Period.
I don't think Kaberle is any type of answer this team needs.
@_Jack ...and *that* team is first in the EC, second in the league, right now. NYR is hanging on for their dear lives to stay in 7th.
I like your optimism, but I don't think Kaberle is the chip that tips the scales.
Heatley, maybe. Chara, hmmm, maybe. Kaberle? Probably not.
@Alex Nunn Here. From Capgeek.com.
"KNOWN CLAUSES: NTC (can designate up to 10 teams he will accept at trade to; if his team misses the playoffs in 2008-09 or 2009-10, he can be traded from the following entry draft until Aug. 15)"
@DO Absolutely. Kaberle also has a limited NTC if memory serves me right, so that's against Burke in negotiations too. He'll get a good price, but nobody's going to pony up the moon for him.
@Alex Nunn Good point. A conditional based on contract extension would make sense here. No clue what the base trade would be, but I think we could use Kaberle for the right price. I'm all about the youth movement, but there is some value in having experience in the lineup. It's even better (and contrary to recent NYR policy) to have "experience" in the line-up while it still has some talent left, which seems to be the case with Kaberle.
@DamirLicina I don't think getting Kaberle makes us or breaks us for the playoffs, so not sure that is a big factor. However, if things start looking really bad (worse) and the PP is the obvious fix, a non-hockey mind (Dolan) might see Kaberle as an easy band-aid.
Ugh. I hope you are wrong.
@DO HAHAHAHA@"That, or he'll wait until July and sign him for 6 years at $8 Mil per."
Comment of the year?
On a serious note (my concerns). Alot of rumours lately and although it hopefully stays at just that I'm trying to look at things from the "Evil Side" (Dolans). Could a player (even though a rental) of Kaberles calibre put the Rangers in the playoffs maybe our horrible owners pressure our re-born GM to pull the trigger on something stupid just to make the playoffs to gain revenue in the post season?
I don't know any numbers just trying to see things from a business point of view and unfortunately it seems that the owners don't care about the club too much and see it more as something that makes profit?
BTW: Think CHI got Frolik fairly cheap